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V2G: All Roads Lead Through Batteries

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Ijaz said that using his company’s batteries on a daily basis to send power to the grid would not degrade performance or reliability. Heat (in the form of the average temperature) and the shelf life “are much more critical issues to battery performance,” he said.

But Ijaz admits that fast charging (10-15 minutes for a full charge) of lithium ion batteries is a much greater technical challenge. The battery chemistry can’t support it. He added that a 200 mile all-electric driving range is “not plausible” because the batteries would be too big.

Auto industry insiders, however, had quite a different view of the state of battery technology today, and of the desirability of employing V2G uses when plug-in hybrids arrive.


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Britta Gross, General Motors Manager of Hydrogen and Electrical Infrastructure Commercialization, sounded shall we say, skeptical, of Mr. Ijaz’ rosy picture of lithium ion batteries’ capabilities. Gross said “we need 10 years to understand batteries” before automakers would be willing to support being used as power plants. “Let us collect data on battery performance,” including understanding durability, safety, and collisions, before moving to V2G, according to Gross. “Theoretically we can do all of this — in ten years it’s a no-brainer. But right now, none of us want to step up to more responsibility or risk. There’s just no way,” Gross said. “We can’t afford to mess this up… [If there's a problem] We may never recover in getting these vehicles (PHEVs) on the road.”

Similar sentiments came from another auto industry insider who did not want to be identified. During a conversation about creating the PHEV market, he said that battery technology was the greatest limiting factor, and that automakers wouldn’t fully invest until the technology is solid — something that he says hasn’t happened yet. Also, during a brainstorming session about what would be making news in 5 and 10 years on the PHEV front, several participants offered examples of battery failures that could sink the market. In addition to positive accomplishments (eg. national electrical standards, higher vehicle fuel economy), batteries could catch fire and raise insurance premiums, and electrical problems that occur as power is moved to and from vehicles could prompt a charging ban from utilities.

So while V2G could be the surest path to plug-in adoption, not everyone is ready to go along for the ride.

John Gartner, Editor In Chief of Matter Network. See all of Matter Network’s plug-in /grid integration content here

Image Credits: Treehugger, RMI & Localpower.org

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2 Responses to “V2G: All Roads Lead Through Batteries”

  1. Greenpointer says:

    Excellent report. Shows you that this is no easy task. We’re talking about the worlds most complicated engineering problem. I’m still hopeful.

    Great job!

  2. Will says:

    Great post. We need an alternative energy source for our cars. No one person or one organization change our dependency on fossil fuel. At least green energy is getting some headway.

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